Co-author of the “ Chicken
Soup for the Soul” series and his latest book “The One Minute
Mark Victor Hansen gives me
goose bumps. He is an inspiring speaker. It would not matter what he spoke
about, the result of the ideas that are in accordance with universal laws,
is a resonance that uplifts the spirit of anyone listening. I asked Mark
about his work as
an author and speaker. I asked him where his inspiration comes from. He
answered, “I‘ve meditated, ruminated and cogitated on this and the message
keeps coming through me; it inundates me, it simply says,
“You’re supposed to figure out
a way to get everyone to give.”
And as Mark adds, “It’s
amazing how the messages come in.
getting ready to do a giant seminar--and every day I wake in an intuitive
dream state. Today I got the message, “Do this in New Jersey”. I
told my staff and admitted there’s no reason I wanted to go to New Jersey
because I like staying at home in California. But the message is so
insistent, so prevalent that I believe this is where we’ve got to give it…”
truth is if you pay attention the direction is there, all the time, in
everything you do. This is assistance from intelligence that knows the
bigger picture. The metaphors are numerous and the assignments look a little
different for each of us; however the joy is in the peace of mind that comes
from following that will, following what we call God.
Victor Hansen has a working knowledge of Universal Laws. He knows that
working with a team makes things of a miraculous nature begin to happen. You
give, contribute, tithe of your time and talent, and God opens up the
resources and inundates you with the infinite. It is not that these words
are preached or that they come as a sermon, indeed they are lived and
breathed. In fact, Mark is prolifically productive and very dedicated. He is
in the Guinness book of records as having sold the most copies of a
non-fiction book ever with the Chicken Soup for the Soul series. At 80
million copies, the dream of changing a whole world one story at a time may
indeed be possible, or even miraculous.
in One Minute Millionaire are essentially the same. It’s to create a
million millionaires, giving a proportion of that million away. To be an
enlightened millionaire is to take a team of people with you on a road to
abundance and love, sharing the ideas of giving and receiving. Mark
encourages people in his
to follow the dreams they have to open their hearts and step into the light.
He shares his broad vision of mind and imparts practical ways to get there.
People grasp these principals, because they know it is there own inspiration
they hold and a desire for their own liberation. The most fundamental
principal is in essence we all share one mind.
thousands of letters he has received over the years, a particular letter
from a person in prisons stands out. This man wrote: “Dear Mark and Jack,
I’ve been in the slammer for the last five years, contemplating the ideal
crime, I wanted to get the guy who put me here. Then my sister sent me a
Chicken book (Chicken Soup for the Prisoners Soul). So when I get out of
here I no longer want to kill the guy”. Here’s the bottom line as one inmate
stated it: “we would not be in the slammer if somebody had read us Chicken
stories as we grew up”. Both Mark and Jack put up the first quarter of a
million dollars to have the Chicken Soup for the Prisoners Soul reach the
true that inspiration will convert into anything you want, and here in the
ideas of The One Minute Millionaire it is money, the eradication of
poverty. Because according to Mark Victor Hansen, an enlightened millionaire
is one who starts with abundance, creating massive value in the ideas you
present and leaving a legacy. Something new, innovative and fresh for others
to grow from and with. Wealth is not something that can satisfy as a
lonesome activity. “No man can get rich without enriching others”.
Link to Mark
Interview with Mark Victor Hansen. Tuesday, March 18, 2003
The vision of the Miracle Times is about uniting humanity through
love and forgiveness. In the work you’ve done over the years there is an
underlying joy and sharing with people, and I wondered if you would talk to
us about that for a moment.
I would. Just ask a specific question and it would be my great honor.
Okay. There’s this dynamic that drives you. Would you call that your
religious source, your real power – would you give it a name as some people
would, of God?
I don’t have any issue with God; I know all three hundred and sixty-seven
names for God – Infinite Intelligence, all that. I think each one of us
needs to contribute…and contribute our highest, our best you know…the goal
is always love and I try to model around that, and I can tell you as an
insider on that, it is miraculous and it comes from heaven. You have a dream
– with the Chicken Soup books we sold 80 million copies, and our
dream was to change a whole world one story at a time; and in One Minute
Millionaire, it’s to create a million millionaires, so that they’ll have
a million to give away to their charity and church – so I’m pretty dedicated
and also prolifically productive. You have a dream and you put together
themes, which means you, your dream…like the title of your magazine.
Is it a magazine magazine that?
It’s an E-Zine. The Miracle Times.
Right. Yeah. We think you can only do miracles on a team…if you take the
Jesus bottle, you got twelve disciples, synchromeshed, all going the same
direction at the same time. So, we agreed to acronym the word, trademark:
to team together means accomplish these miracles. You know, Jack and I have
accomplished a lot of miracles. According to the Guinness Book of Records,
we’ve sold more non-fiction books than anyone else in history. So…yes
One more thing on this miracle thing …to me there are interesting things
that seem to open up miracles … giving and tithing, contributing and serving
and all that, but …when you contribute 10% of your time, talent and
resources, God opens up the infinite … and inundates you with it.
Yes. That has been my experience personally. It’s like what I have been
given out of the universal law: giving and receiving are the same thing.
They follow on from each other.
Exactly correct, and we believe that … it multiplies … much spiritual
homework … or spiritual experiences … yet, don’t understand that this is the
only way to get the whole game going.
That is, indeed, so what I see from the work that you’re doing, that you
actually take people up into a broader vision of mind. That is where you
operate yourself, your services, to take as many people up there as
Right, and some people don’t get it and that is okay. Obviously there are
people …a certain mind-set who look at me and go, “He’s not real” (laughs)…I
don’t understand all that”…… and I go, “That’s okay, I may not be real to
you but … this weekend we had a husband and wife in wheelchairs come up to
me…they heard me six months ago and got some of the Chicken Soup
books and One Minute Millionaire, and they said to each other, “Aw,
if this guy is right, when we get back, we could really make a difference.”
So the day before I got back, they gave away 26 wheelchairs…I didn’t know
anything about wheelchairs and this guy had the most horrific accident where
he got caught in a tornado. He was a physician assistant, a PA… and when he
came out of the tornado he was dropped eight floors down…it was just
horrific. And there was no insurance and he crushed eight inches of his
lower spine. He said to me, “Wheelchairs have to be made specifically for
each person.” You know, I never thought about that, never gave it one
second, and this guy said, “I’m going to figure out how to make enough money
and contribute a lot of it towards wheelchairs, so everybody in the world
who needs one will get a wheelchair.” I thought, how nice to get that
reflected glory of what he was trying to do. He was saying, Look, if
everybody makes a million and then makes an extra million and gives it away,
it’s a track; you can push back more social ills … that’s how most of those
social ills could get pushed back.
I need to ask this question about the making of money, because somewhere in
the mind there is this idea about the making of money – because in the idea
of making money there is an idea of greed or hanging onto money – what would
you say to me to release those ideas…so that when I made my first million,
I’d be wanting to give it away, to give some of it away.
The only way you can be greedy is if you don’t give, it’s greed; in fact
what you said – you turn off the faucet. God only knows how to give. If you
and I are only made of God stuff and God only knows how to give, he gives us
sunshine, makes the photosynthesis work and total regeneration of the
planet. You and I are supposed to do the same thing. So if we shut off our
giving, which is to be greedy and to hoard and to be stingy and to be
scrooge-like – if you don’t tithe, you’re greedy. As long as you tithe you
can’t be greedy, because universal law that says give back 10%. If you’re
unsure of giving, there are two things we teach. First of all, we say take
ten cents out of a dollar, a dollar out of a hundred, a hundred dollars out
of a thousand and ten thousand out of a million. If you’re sure that the
principle works, go to my website,
www.markvictorhansen.com, you download for free a thing I wrote to get
everyone going on this.
God gave me the commission
to get people together it seems and I thought, “Well, how do you do that?” I
thought it through. I wrote a whole long article, I’ll give you the gist of
it – you do idea tithing, which is you tithe your talent – and that
could be an idea, or your time, your treasure and your talent. The Red Cross
was out of blood four years ago, and I was their spokesperson with Lisa
Gibbons and William Shatner. They had no blood, so I went out to the
chiropractic community…they had given me 3 honorary doctorates and I’ve been
their front man for twenty years, and I said, “Hey, look, you ought to bring
in patients, get them to give blood…ring 800
give life, the Red Cross
helpline. Ask them to give a pint of blood and give them a free adjustment.”
And we went from zero blood to 300,000 pints in four weeks. We went from
dehydrated to totally re-hydrated, and the principle is that we got the best
scientists in the world but they don’t know how to create pseudo or fake
blood; you gotta have real blood. In the end if you want to have your loved
ones…one of my friends just crashed his car and he needed blood…and if
there’s no blood when you get there, you’re called dead. So it’s a very
serious thing. Does that make sense?
Yes, it does.
Mark: Well, one
idea got us back in blood, and what we’re teaching is that everybody is here
to have their idea times a system equal the result they want, or their idea
times a system equal abundant wealth, or their idea times a system equals a
miracle. How’s that?
Works for me! Can I go back a little? When you say to me that God gave me a
mandate to look at the ideas of giving and tithing – can you talk a bit
about that revelation and when that happened to you?
Well, twenty years ago, I wrote a book called The Miracle of Tithing
and businessmen look at it and when they see it, they say, “What is the
miracle of tithing?” And I consistently tithed and I talked my partner
Jack Canfield, my publisher into
tithing…Jack has always been tithing because he's of the Mormon religion and
they're the best givers in the world according to all the research. It’s
interesting when you look at what states give the most, it’s Utah; why?
Because givers give. Because they understand that God has a bigger shovel
than you do, or whatever metaphor you want. I’ve meditated, cogitated,
ruminated on this and the message keeps coming through me, and it inundates
me. It says, “You're supposed to figure out how to get everyone to give,”
and I thought, “O God,” I don't believe you'd have any trouble being in the
miracle business believing that. … I figure it's an assignment from God and
if you have an assignment from God…
That’s how it is. The message that is…that comes from within, doesn't it?
It’s amazing how the messages come in. We're getting ready to do a giant
seminar and everyday I wake up in an intuitive dream state and one day it
says, “Do this in New Jersey,” and I told my staff…I said, “There's no
reason I want to go to New Jersey, I like staying at home in California…but
the message is so insistent, so prevalent, that I believe this is where we
gotta give it. And, how do we get back to the East Coast again.”
Does that make sense?
We're absolutely directed to do everything that we do.
Yes, if you're paying attention.
Mark, there are many people who've been very grateful for your assistance.
Not least the people who've been incarcerated in prisons. In a sense, being
in prison is a metaphor for the way a lot of people find themselves to be
incarcerated in their own minds. I guess you’ve had a lot of feedback from
the people in prisons, and the book you've written that includes the stories
people have written, inspires us to lead utterly different lives. Could you
comment on that?
The first letter we got was from a guy who said: "Dear Mark and Jack, I've
been in the slammer for the last five years, contemplating the ideal crime,
I wanted to get the guy who put me here. Then my sister sent me a Chicken
book. So when I get out of here, I no longer wanna kill the guy." And I
thought, “Wow, what a change of perception.” We got a letter totally
unrelated to that from a federal penitentiary warden up in Oregon and he
sent one hundred and thirty letters from prisoners which were spontaneously
written because he said every night he reads them a Chicken Story…and,
“Every one of the letters that went out…I (collated) them, and I’ve got them
in my file, because I was so astounded…but the bottom line is…somebody said
that we really would not be in the slammer if somebody had read us a Chicken
Story when we were little kids growing up”. Jack and I said, "Well, how do
we make a change?" Both Jack and I were Asian scholars, he was a China
scholar and I was an Indian scholar, and we both understand Asia…and we've
been to Japan, both of us, a lot, and in Japan they have a penal system
that…it's not just punitive but it really transforms them which (God during
this life [does]). (What does this mean???)
In the Chicken Soup
book and One Minute Millionaire we got a picture in the book with a
caterpillar and the caterpillar transforms into a butterfly, which is sort
of a Pygmalion effect that we’re doing the whole Chicken Soup series on, and
we said…what if we do a book, Chicken Soup for the Prisoner's Soul…and
we; Jack and I put up the first quarter of a million to get it into the
prisons, and we need to raise the other four million, and the fact is we
need an impresario; we need a leader, we need someone who really wants to
dedicate himself or herself to that, just because we got so many
opportunities and we're doing our best to take care of them and be
philanthropic and charitable and … so we've got maybe half a million copies
of the Chicken Soup for the Prisoner's Soul sold to prisoners. It's
even a hardship to get prisoners' books into prisons because sometimes
people lace stuff with opium, and there’s all kinds of …so they've got to
check every book that comes in.
It's amazing, isn’t it?
Well, it's a level of persistence that I never expected, quite honestly.
Everything has got to be glued and not stapled, etc., etc., etc. Sooz, do
you want to ask Mark some questions?
Your latest book is One Minute Millionaire and I know the principles
are literally the same as someone who's searching for a miracle-minded
perspective, but my perspective, my interest is not so much the goal of
money, although money can give me certain elements of freedom; it's more how
I can use the same principles in going for anything, for any goal…whether
it’s…well, my goal is God.
Mark: In One Minute Millionaire, on the right
hand side of the book, it teaches you principles, principles that will work
in any specific system. All you need is a dream, a team, and then you get
streams of success, results, residual value income or residual philosophy;
any one of those four things and then on the left-hand side, you’ve got a
story. We're told by everyone who reads it – it’s riproaringly page-turning
and compelling but it's the story of a lady whose husband dies tragically
and her father-in-law hates her…he takes away the kids and does terrible
things to her, and she has to get a mentor – which in the movie, we hope it
will be Doctor Mahajalore and the lead will be Julia Roberts. He gives her
an Enlightened Millionaire Training, which was…will be our training. Look,
this whole thing will convert into anything you want. We convert it into
money because Bob and I are trying to eradicate poverty on the planet,
because poverty causes war and if we can do that and have fundamental
abundance, then we would have no more reason for war.
That would be absolutely wonderful, incredible. Particularly at this very
Well, we’re doing what we know how to do and by golly, the people who're
buying this book are making it a bestseller, and some people are calling it
a classic, and it's transforming lives … Anyone who’s gone from zero to a
million copies sold in four months and nine days … it just went straight to
the top, so that’s been very incredible to watch.
Margo: It's incredible to see anyone getting hold of
that. In fact, what they’re grasping is their own inspiration, their own
desire for their own liberation, aren’t they? That would be the essence of
that, that would indeed be what connects all of us. If we all share the one
mind then that essence would be … I guess in the form that it's manifesting
for you. It’s the same as the miracle, isn’t it? Behind every inspirational
thing is the one thing. I get goose bumps talking with you, Mark, and thank
What you're saying is correct – peace and poverty are linked. If you end
poverty, you get to have peace. And obviously the Garden of Eden was the
most peaceful place.
Yes it is, and finally, it's in my mind. I'm the only place where I can find
my own peace.
That is right, because the people who are in weaponry and warring would need
to find peace in their self.
Yes, and the idea of finance and money and total abundance…it’s a full
thing. It’s not something that is in half measures, it’s an idea that would
spring out of the admission in your self that you can’t do this…and you
would be that help for most of us, I guess.
That is why we call it Enlightened Millionaire because the first thing we
say is we have to come from abundance. And the second thing we say is, its
an inside job, you've got to create massive value for others on a scale of
one to ten … most of us have never thought of what creating massive value
for others would be. And, number three is, am I leaving a legacy? Am I
contributing back something growing at a level that nobody else ever talked
about or thought about growing?
It's an incredible thing when you talk about the idea of including others in
looking for accumulated wealth, because it's not an idea I have had, of
including others when you accumulate wealth. Wealth causes guilt in me.
Wealth causes guilt in you?
I'm looking at that idea right now, that the idea of accumulating wealth has
an underpinning of guilt. Now, if I was to include everyone else in my
accumulation of wealth then that guilt would turn into giving. I'm just
… it's a good thing. Well, guilt always brings up self-persecution so you
don't want to have that as an attitude, I don't think. The second thing is,
if you go to Andrew Carnegie's house…and here’s a guy who’s a benefactor –
to the American library (system), Carnegie Hall – and he tried to pay for
peace. He went to Kaiser Wilhelm in World War Two and said, “Here’s a check,
a blank check, I’ll write whatever amount you need. A billion dollars.” That
was in World War One. But the first line on a framed document when you go
to his house on 91st, 5th Avenue in New York is,
"No man can get rich without enriching all others.” That's gotta get rid
of guilt because when you become a millionaire, ten new people get jobs as a
result of you creating that million. What we need right now is more jobs;
there are so many people unemployed in the United States and around the
world. There is no need for unemployment if you're doing your spiritual work
and your mental work – that's contributing, and you’re contributing at the
That is why we wrote the book, because all of us got our own money attitudes
and we get them unconsciously and subconsciously from Mom and Dad and from
society and you say, "Well, who can do more good, somebody who is able to
create a lot of money and or create a lot of employment – or somebody who is
down on their luck?” Well, somebody who is up on their luck can get
somebody who's down on their luck, up on his or her luck.
And there's an action of mind that keeps moving because it has to keep
moving, because it's gotta be given away, again because that is how the idea
of spirit works, that is how the idea of enlightenment works, because what
I've been given, I must give away.
You can't keep anything; you're always in temporary care of your car, your
house, your clothes, your furniture, your ideas. What we're saying in the
One Minute Millionaire, we're saying you've got to codify your ideas or
distill them into a book or a treatise or an E-Book or whatever, and then
share it with other people. I even do a seminar once a year called The
Mega-book Marketing University, that is coming up in two weeks where we
introduce you to nineteen of the finest minds in the world, writers,
publishers, a top agent, and then you get it that there's a book in every
one of us, and if you marshal it and use it – it is one of your streams of
Margo: That sounds lovely, Mark. Sooz, are there any
questions you'd like to ask Mark.
What I’m looking at is, my passion is, my own discovery of God and here is
an idea of money – and I'm looking for a place where we can join with that.
Coming back to the idea of tithing 10%, Jesus in my understanding taught,
‘Give everything away and come on home with me’. He said, “Drop your nets
and come on home with me.” So I'm curious to see how you're looking at this.
Mark: Well, let’s talk about Jesus. First of all, he's
the only guy in the bible it is said, at birth who had the three wise men
bring him frankincense, myrrh and – and do you remember what the other
product was they brought?
Frankincense, myrrh and something or other! (laughs)
Gold. Frankincense, myrrh and gold.
(laughs) I can't think of a better answer.
When there was not enough fish to feed everyone, what did he do? He brought
up enough fish. He took a little and turned it into a lot, which is what we
are teaching. We're saying that the one thing God gave everybody is
imagination and it's the imagination that is the font of all realization and
Jesus was the manifester of all time. He said, "Pay unto Caesar that which
is Caesar's and pay unto God that which is God's."
…… gold coin. He was never
cheap and he was never stingy. Well, the test you're doing is, ‘Give
everything you've got,’ but the principle is, ‘The love of money is the root
of all evil,’ and that is why most poor people are stuck, because they think
money is the root of all evil. It's not. It's the love of money, it’s the
obsession; especially when you don't have any money, you do get obsessed
with it. When you don't have enough to buy a peanut butter sandwich, when
you don't have enough to stay alive. You gotta have money freedom to buy
time freedom so you can have spiritual freedom, to figure out who you are
and God…what God is.
Absolutely. The idea of giving everything away is just that, the idea
of giving everything away–an idea.
Jesus, when he's talking about the parable of the talents, he said, “You're
a wise and faithful servant if you double everything you've got every year:
double your time, double your treasure, double your talent, double your
skills, double your abilities, double your thinking”. That is what is a good
I'm with you.
Does that give you a little – ? What happens is so many priests, ministers,
rabbis say that he was just a poor carpenter. There is nowhere in the text
where it says he was poor. He was the richest of the rich, he was a 33rd
degree mason. Abraham was rich … when you read Proverbs, it says, “Nobody
listens to a poor person.”
That can be true!
So if you want to do miracles, you got to have money.
Margo: To go around the world, to get around
the countryside, that’s the thing – you got to be mobile. I guess there is
no prerequisite for doing miracles. The principles that are underpinning
everything you're doing I agree with and I'm very grateful for you.